You spent some time attached to each other before filming.
Kinnear: Yeah we did. We spent some time at Carrie Fisher’s house playing tennis, cooking burgers.
Damon: Yeah, playing tennis was fun.
Why Carrie Fisher’s house?
Damon: The Farrellys know Carrie Fisher and she had a tennis court. That’s how it works with these guys: ‘Go over to Carrie Fisher’s tennis court, she’ll be waiting for you, don’t worry about it.’
Kinnear: That’s how it is and usually they call you 15 minutes before they want you to do something.
Did you know each other before this film?
Damon: Actually we had signed up for the movie before we even met each other.
Kinnear: It was a dangerous exercise. It could have gone horribly wrong. Oh, let’s not kid ourselves, it did go horribly wrong!
Especially since you look so different!
Damon: You know, they originally wanted Jim Carey and Woody Allen, and that would have meant they needed an explanation as to why they looked so different. So they came up with the idea that one has more liver and the other was aging a lot worse. That was it really.
Kinnear: Their movies have an element of the outrageous but there is an element of reality to them.
How did you prepare for being joined together like that? Did you train?
Damon: When you say ‘train’ it suggests something methodical. But there was no science in this. They tied us together and they just pushed us so it was just time spent walking around together and getting used to it. Once we started shooting we were together 12 hours a day. At first, before we would even sit down, we would go ‘One, two, three: sit!’ But a week into it we could stand, we could walk, we would sense what the other was doing.
Kinnear: And we weren’t sure who was moving who. It was like on a Ouija board. Everyone puts their hands on and sure enough this stupid thing starts to move. Somebody’s pushing it. There are no spirits, OK! Actually, we did some work with a trainer for the tennis.
Damon: And the baseball and hockey. The cooking — we kind of made up that routine.
What happens in the bathroom?
Damon: Well, truthfully the bathroom scenario for guys, I mean we do it all the time. I mean at least half of the bathroom scenario we do anyway.
Kinnear: Yeah and let’s take the other half of it out of the scenario right away, that’s not in the equation.
Was anything in the script so over-the-top that didn’t make it into the final cut?
Damon: No, the farthest we went is in there. I mean, playing goalie in the hockey team is in there, we had a sex scene, you know, albeit tastefully shot. It’s all in there.
Kinnear: The script is pretty representative of the movie. Obviously it’s a tricky subject matter, but they have dealt with this kind of material before and they’ve kind of gone to the line and straddled it a bit and I felt that was what was happening here. And really, if you know these guys, and I’ve known them for a lot of years, I knew that they would deal with this right and it would be coming from a good place. They have a lot of people with disabilities work on their movies. And they handle this OK.
Do you expect a lot of criticism for this film?
Damon: I would not, but you never know. I remember doing Dogma with Kevin Smith, and there were protest rallies and at that point nobody had even seen the movie. And Kevin, who is a practicing Catholic, was out there going, ‘I don’t understand. How can you protest about a movie you haven’t even seen?’ Not that it would happen on that scale for this movie, but you know I would hope people would at least see the movie before they have something to say about it. I mean, when we first heard the pitch we were like, ‘Oh.’ But it’s a really warm movie and you know it’s got a lot of heart, as they say in the business.
Kinnear: I think the point is that they never tell a joke at the expense of someone gratuitously. If they don’t think it was a character quirk or true to the story or whatever, I don’t think they would ever be maliciously, intentionally mean.
Damon: They live on the edge a little with their humour but there isn’t anything wrong with that.
Did you miss each other once the film was over?
Damon: Well, Greg’s been stalking me since the end of the movie. I see him every night standing outside of my window crying.
Kinnear: That’s right, I’m stalking him. It was sad when the movie was over. Rocket, who is in the movie, kind of gives the final speech when the movie is done. The Farrellys put the whole speech into the end credits if you wait long enough.
Is there something about the Farrellys?
Kinnear: Bobby’s the more boisterous. They watch the take and kind of confer. They have different styles. It’s very collective; if you watch them it’s hard to work out which is the alpha brother. In a lot of ways they are the story of Bob and Walt. And they are open to the idea of improvising.
Did you ask them if the film is autobiographical?
Damon: That’s way too philosophical to mention to Peter and Bobby. You know, ‘Is this about you guys?’ And it would be, ‘Huh? I’m going to get another beer. This is hurting my head.’
Kinnear: They wouldn’t take to that conversation too well but I think whether they know it or not there is some underlying truth. As artists they could go solo. They could go their own way, their separate ways. And they are probably always struggling with that question: ‘Should we separate?’ So I think there is some element of them in there.
Do you have people you are that close to?
Kinnear: I will never have anyone in my life that I was as close to as Matt Damon in the spring of 2002!
Damon: I would have to agree, I don’t think I would ever invite someone that far into my personal space for that amount of time.
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